and now we've got a preside who can't even do a safe interview with jon stewart without screwing it up. i mean, this thg is taking on a bidnesque o, if you will, rather, an obama aura. >> well, this why you're not going to see barack obama over the weekend. both candidates are o the trail, they're sequestered to do debate prep, but i think it's also to keep them from making some glaring error that they would have to go in and answer r many in that debate. the debates this year have become more important than i've ever remembered them being in moving thevoters one way or t other. both candidates go in with a lot on the line, but i think more is on the line for barack obama in this foreign policy debate because, lou, i'd hate to have to walk in there and defend benghazi, defind why he hs -- defend why he hasever answered for fort hood and little rock as a terror act. and in little rock simply a random state crime. nsense. this is a pattern. lou: the process of you can call it stonewalling, of on fuse case -- >> it's lying, let's be honest, 's lying. lou: well, certainly tuesday night bef